I just want to say that I asked for a simply rugged holster for Christmas. Thank goodness my wife got me the full flap pancake holster, oxblood, with the basket weave and border stamped. I got it for my 4 inch 686 so that I'd have a high-quality, durable holster to carry it around in the woods. My expectations were blown out of the water. This is a beautiful and rugged holster. The pictures on the website do not do these holsters justice-- they're much nicer in person. If it weren't for the fact that it's so obviously durable, I'd almost be afraid to use it so I could keep it mint. But like I said, I foresee this holster lasting a long, long time. I'm proud to have Rob Leahy's stamp. Thanks everyone from Simply Rugged and have a fantastic New Year!